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|7847th Ordnance Supply Group History
|(Source: Email from David M. Amos, 7847 Ord Supply Group, 1951)
|After basic training in Camp Breckenridge, KY (May, 1951 - August, 1951), I was assigned shortly thereafter to the then being organized 7847 Headquarters Supply Group as a Publications Clerk. Don't remember too much! Looked after all needed publications, forms, etc. for the group and would restock each week after procuring necessary documents/forms from Headquarters in Heidelberg.
The Group was then headed by a Colonel Henderson and as I recall we had responsibility for sub-groups in Kaiserslautern, Pirmasens, and Germisheim. After becoming a driver (because of the boredom of clerking) of various vehicles, I was assigned the responsibility of carrying mail in a pouch (with instructions not to stop the vehicle, while armed with a forty-five and five rounds of Ammo) to Kaiserslautern to return in the afternoon with a similar pouch for Colonel Henderson.
Often I would make the circuit of the three facilties with an Inspector of sorts, a Captain Weber, who seemed to carry the authority of a General, based on the scrambling reaction of several higher ranking officers at each of the three facilities. The tour would usually go from Feudenheim to Kaiserslautern, to Pirmasens, to Germersheim, back through Ludwigshafen and Mannheim to Feudenheim.
I was there for several months and then was transferred with three others to an Ammo Dump in Captieux, (Southern) France, before settling with the 4th Infantry Division in Gelnhausen, Germany for the rest of my three-year Army career as Squad Leader in a (60 mm) Mortar Squad of a Rifle Company!
I happened to be in Mannheim, Germany to speak last month (after fifty years) and went to visit Spinelli Barracks. It had changed significantly, but sure brought back a lot of memories.
|(Source: STARS & STRIPES, July 27, 1952)
|The 7847th Ord Supply Gp marked its first anniversary on this day. The ordnance group was formed at the Mannheim Ordnance Depot on July 26, 1951.
The Gp controls the operations at seven ordnance depots in Germany and France:
Mannheim Ord Depot, Mannheim
Pirmasens Ord Depot, Pirmasens
Rhine Ord Depot, Kaiserslautern
Germersheim Ord Vehicle Park
Braconne Ord Depot, Angouleme
Fontenet Ord Depot
Headquarters of the 7847th is comprised of 20 ofdficers and civilians employees as well as 70 enlisted men. CO of the group is Lt Col Frederic E. Hendler.
In the first year, the Gp was involved in in many missions including the construction of the depots in France and the processing and shipping of thousands of vehicles to member countries of NATO from the Germersheim Ord Vehcile Park.
|(Source: STARS & STRIPES, April 13 1954)
|The 53rd Ord Supply Gp marked its tenth anniversary on this day. Group CO is Col Elmer M. Webb.
The Gp controls the operations at four ordnance depots in Germany:
Mannheim Ord Supply Depot - depot CO is Lt Col A. E. Kehke
Pirmasens Ord Supply Depot - depot CO is Lt Col E. J. Ormiston
Rhine Ord Supply Depot, Kaiserslautern - depot CO is Maj Don F. Riordan
Germersheim Ord Vehicle Park - depot CO is Maj Ralph W. Petring
Note: The ordnance depots in Mannheim, Pirmasens and Kaiserslautern were redesignated as ordnance supply depots in December 1953.
|53rd Ordnance Group
Sketch of the 53rd Ordnance Group. Prepared by the 53rd Ord Gp
in June 1953 as an information booklet for newly assigned personnel.)
53d Ordnance Group was originally known as the 7847
Ordnance Supply Group until it was redesignated on
20 March 1953. The 7847 Ordnance Supply Group was activated
at Mannheim Ordnance Depot on 26 July 1951, under the authority
of General Order No. 17, Headquarters EUCOM, Ordnance Division,
dated 25 JULY 1951. The T/D 77-7847, dated 26 July 1951, provided
for an authorized strength of 7 officers, 30 enlisted men.
The Group Headquarters was established in a newly renovated
building, No. 1-02, Spinelli Barracks, as a lodger unit within
the Mannheim Ordnance Depot. Lt Col Walter F. Partin, previously
Commanding Officer of the Mannheim Ordnance Depot, assumed command
of the Group, and Lt Col Frederic E. Hendler was appointed Executive
Officer and Operations Officer.
Under its original mission, the Group was to be charged with
the operational control of the assigned installations, and administration
was to be a minor factor.
Upon being informed of the change in the emergency mission,
a request for change in the T/D was initiated, whereby the same
number of military personnel were to be authorized as in Table
of Organization and Equipment 9-12 as changed.
A revision of T/D 77-7847 was subsequently published to become effective
2 January 1952, whereby the military strength was increased to 17
officers, and 73 enlisted men. On 16 January 1952, Lt Col Frederic
E. Hendler assumed command of the Group.
A revised mission was published as part of Change 2 to EUCOM Ordnance
Circular No. 2, dated 30 April 1952 and the scope was broadened to
"The military command, technical direction, and administrative
and operational control of all installations, activities, troop units
and personnel assigned to the Group."
At the time of the activation of the (7847) Group Headquarters, the
only installation coming under control of the Group was the Mannheim
Ordnance Depot, and its sub-installation, Pirmasens Ordnance Depot,
and the Ordnance Class II & IV portion of Rhine Ordnance Depot.
Shortly thereafter, Pirmasens Ordnance Depot was redesignated as a
Class II installation on an equal footing with Mannheim Ordnance Depot
and assigned to the Group.
During the interim period, site development plans had been prepared
by this headquarters for proposed ordnance installations to be established
along the line of communications in France and upon activation these
installations, namely, ADSEC Ordnance Depot at Foret de Haye and BASEC
Ordnance Depot at Fontenet, were assigned to the Group for operations.
The BASEC Ordnance Depot at Forst de Braconne, originally established
as a sub-depot of Fontenet, was later designated as a Class II installation
with Fontenet the sub-depot. Germersheim Ordnance Vehicle Park, located
in the French Zone of occupation and established as a temporary installation
to be concerned primarily with the vehicle exchange program, was the
last addition to the Group installations.
At that time, therefore, the 7847 Ordnance Supply Group was responsible
for the mission as outlined in Change 2, Ordnance Circular No. 2,
dated 30 April 1952, and for the following installations:
Ordnance Depot (US Occupation Zone)
Ordnance Depot (French Occupation Zone)
Ord Vehicle Park (French Occupation Zone)
II and IV portions of Rhine Ordnance Depot (French Occupation
Ordnance Depot (ADSEC, USAREUR COMZ)
Ordnance Depot (BASEC, USAREUR COMZ)
Ordnance Depot (BASEC, USAREUR COMZ)
1 December 1952, the 7847 Ordnance Supply Group had accomplished
its mission. The Mannheim Ordnance Depot was used as the Mother
Depot in furnishing supplies and assistance sufficiently to make
Braccone, Fontenet, and Nancy Ordnance Depots,
located in the communications zone of France, self sufficient to
such an extent that they became operational on their own under the
command of USAREUR COMZ. An agreement was made by the Group that
continued support would be furnished to the COMZ depots in every
way possible by furnishing supplies and assistance though they were
not subordinate to the Group.
The 53d Ordnance Group was activated at Spinelli Barracks, Mannheim-Feudenheim,
Germany, on 20 March 1953 under the authority of General Order No.
3, Headquarters, United States Army Europe, Office of the Ordnance
Officer, dated 16 March 1953, and all personnel formerly assigned
to the 7847 Ordnance Supply Group were assigned to this new Group.
As of 20 March 1953, the 53d Ordnance Group, Lt Col Frederic E.
Hendler, Commanding, assumed the mission and the duties of the 7847
Ordnance Supply Group with an authorized strength of 15 officers,
72 enlisted men, 5 DA civilians, and 18 German civilians.
The mission of the 53d Ordnance Group and subordinate installations
is as follows
MISSION OF THE 53d ORDNANCE GROUP
1. The military command, technical direction, and administrative
and operational control of all installations, activities, troop
units and personnel assigned or attached to the Group.
a. Military command
includes the military training, administration, and tactical employment
of the elements assigned or attached to the Group.
Technical direction includes the technical training, management,
and execution of ordnance service.
Administrative control includes the performance of all administrative
functions normally required of any intermediate military headquarters
unit in the administration of elements under its control.
Operational control includes all of those functions which can be
performed by the Group to increase the operational efficiency of
the elements under its control. This will include the coordination
and supervision of Ordnance General Supply Service within and among
the elements under control of the Group. Operational control will
also include, but will not be limited to, proper receipt, classification,
identification, inspection storage, preservation, maintenance-in-storage,
and issue of Ordnance General Supplies; compliance with established
storage and stock control policies; maintenance of adquate stock
records; reclamation of supplies as directed; execution of assigned
depot missions, work measurement programs; and technical matters
dealing with Ordnance General Supplies.
2. The execution of plans and policies and the compliance with technical
directives as issued by the Office, Chief of Ordnance, Headquarters
USAREUR, to govern the operations of the Ordnance Supply Service
within the command.
3. The operation and administration of the Supply Group Headquarters
directly under the Office, Chief of Ordnance, Headquarters USAREUR.
4. The coordination with the 51st Ordnance Maintenance Group in
respect to Supply and Reclamation operations at installations under
the control of the Maintenance Group, the Ordnance Procurement Center
and the Ordnance Stock Control Center in respect to overall command
requirements for Ordnance General Supplies.
5. The preparation of statistical and other reports as required
by the Office, Chief of Ordnance, Headquarters USAREUR, or higher
6. Review of budget estimates, request for changes in established
annual funding programs and civilian personnel authorizations, and
the submission of recommendations to Office, Chief of Ordnance,
Headquarters USAREUR, based on analysis of past and projected workloads,
Review and recommendations with regard to equipment requirements.
MISSION OF THE MANNHEIM ORDNANCE DEPOT
1. Master depot for receipt, classification, identification, storage,
preservation, reclamation, maintenance and issue of Class II & IV
supplies, SNL G through N, including Federal Stock Items but excluding
H-14, tires and tubes. Issues are effected on requisitions received
direct from authorized requisitioning agencies, as directed by Office,
Chief of Ordnance, Headquarters USAREUR.
2. Classification, processing and shipment of designated supplies
to the Zone of Interior.
3. Responsible for field maintenance of depot materials handling
4. Demilitarization of combat material in accordance with current
5. Returned Material General Supplies. To receive, inspect, identify,
segregate, reprocess, preserve and package returned Ordnance general
supplies in accordance with specific instructions as furnished by
Chief of Ordnance, Headquarters USAREUR, appropriate to the mission
of the depot.
MISSION OF THE PIRMASENS ORDNANCE DEPOT
1. Command Supply. Issue depot for major items of SNL A through
F (less wheeled artillery) and for authorized spare parts and assemblies
(items listed in Ordnance 5-5 and 5-4 series) in SNL Groups A through
F. Filler depot for all Ordnance Class II and IV material., except
2. ZI Shipments. The classification, processing and shipment of
designated supplies to the Zone of Interior.
3. Demilitarization. Of Ordnance equipment in accordance with instructions
and as directed by the Office, Chief of Ordnance, Headquarters USAREUR.
4. Manufacture. As required and directed for immediate issue or
for command stocks.
5. Returned Material. Responsible for processing returned material
which is appropriate to the mission of the depot.
MISSION OF THE GERMERSHEIM ORDNANCE VEHICLE PARK
1. Command Supply. The receipt, inspection, classification, storage,
processing, preservation, maintenance-in-storage and issue or shipment
of all types of vehicles, as directed by the Office, Chief of Ordnance,
2. Field Maintenance. Performs field maintenance on vehicles being
stored or processed.
MISSION OF THE RHINE ORDNANCE DEPOT
1. The first mission of the former Rhine General Depot, together
with Rhine Ammunition Depot, was "the receipt, storage, maintenance
and issue of supplies as authorized and directed for the Commander-in-Chief,
Headquarters EUCOM, by the Director, Logistics Division." These
early supplies were strategic in nature and vital to the combat
effectiveness of European Command. During this period these installations
were the only ones our Army had west of the Rhine River.
2. When it was redesignated, Rhine Ordnance Depot became the vehicle
issue point for the theater. The current mission includes:
Receipt, storage, and issue of wheeled and tracked vehicles, artillery,
small arms, tires and tubes, and ammunition. A major portion of
this task consists in processing and in storage maintenance of vehicles
and large caliber weapons.
Receipt, processing and repair of the overflow of heavy maintenance
on general purpose vehicles from Seventh Army Headquarters USAREUR,
Communications Zone, Air Force, and United States Forces Austria.
Providing administrative and logistical support to the Air Force
and Quartermaster supply activities remaining in the depot. The
former signal, medical, engineer, and transportation activities
have been discontinued.
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|(Source: Email from Elmo G. Hinkle)
|I was stationed with the 75th Ord Supply Depot in Pirmasens 1952-1954.
I was assigned to the 75th Ord Supply Depot in Oct. 1952.
We were billeted at Husterhoeh Kaserne in Pirmasens. We would ride to Massweiler to the storage area. At Massweiler there was a warehouse and hardstand, plus the caves.
A Sgt. Blevins was in charge. Each of us was assigned to a specific cave to supervise German civilian workers. There was one cave on the top of the hill that had never been reopened. The first units arriving there opened the caves and ordnance material was stored.
I was put in charge of Cave 201 which stored small arms parts. There was bins for 5000 small arms parts. Other caves had major items such as carbines (M1's), etc.
In Oct.1953 the 75th was relocated to Nancy, France. Three of us were reassigned to a Service unit (7834 Service unit), on a temporary basis, to finish up some of the move and then we were sent to Nancy in Jan. 1954 to rejoin the company. It was really good duty. The civilian workers were very cooperative. After all is said and done it was really the life of Reillly. I enjoyed it very much.
Fance was hell compared to Germany!
P.S.the other storage areas showm on the map each stored some type of Ordnance Material, such as motor vehicle parts and major replacement parts.
|(Source: STARS & STRIPES, Oct 13, 1953)
The 53rd Ord Gp is headquartered at Mannheim-Feudenheim. It is the only Ordnance Supply Group in USAREUR responsible for Class II and IV supply activities.
The Group includes
the following installations:
Mannheim Ord Depot
Rhine Ord Depot
Pirmasens Ord Depot
Germersheim Ord Veh Park
Until Nov of 1952, the Gp included ordnance depots at Nancy, Braconne and Fontenet, France. These were transferred at that time to Com Z.